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Re: Ending this.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:23 pm
by The Cerberus Alliance
True.

Who is supposed to come up with that, anyway?

Re: Ending this.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:58 pm
by Trailers
Not it!

My antics only count for my nation. If yew lot wanna use the friend of my friend technique, I'm sure that would work.

Re: Ending this.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:18 pm
by Central Facehuggeria
I wash my bloodstained hands of it.

Re: Ending this.

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:22 am
by Telros
I could try. Nothing fancy, like "We of the ESUS alliance..." Someone else can do that, if they want. I can just write down what we want.

Two things:

One, I need to know what we want as an alliance from the GFFA. Nothing too hefty now, talking to Abh and Xanthal and the whole "deplete military and install military watchers" got a BADDDD vibe.

Two, we will need to have some leg room for compromise. Unless God himself gives me the great idea of treaty-writing, then I think we will have issues.

Re: Ending this.

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:26 am
by Trailers
We could just promise to keep off of and away from one another turf from now to the end of Time. With a minor subclause allowing for limited trade and tourism rights..

If someone breaks the treaty, they are expelled from their respective alliance and on the kill on site list of all nations of the respective alliances.

Re: Ending this.

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:28 am
by Telros
Works for me. Anyone else? Anything the treaty would need to have for your nation to be satisfied, without making the GFFA recoil?

Re: Ending this.

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:17 am
by Hyperspatial Travel
Trailers wrote:We could just promise to keep off of and away from one another turf from now to the end of Time. With a minor subclause allowing for limited trade and tourism rights..

If someone breaks the treaty, they are expelled from their respective alliance and on the kill on site list of all nations of the respective alliances.
Uhhhhhhhh... No. I won't be signing that treaty. Because some of us are members of other alliances, or are, of their own free will, are, or will be at war with the GFFA. Like Chron, myself, and Telros.

I rather think that the ESUS-sanctioned part of the war is ended. The ESUS has no right to dictate peace terms to its individual members, (although it can declare a state of war, this is easily enough ignored if not desired, whereas if the ESUS goes around trying to make members peace people, people will just ignore anything the ESUS Senate says), but it can say that the ESUS as a whole is no longer at war with the GFFA.

And then various members can withdraw from the war as they wish.

Re: Ending this.

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:49 pm
by Metallinauts
Not to mention such a treaty violates he sovereignty of all of the ESUS and is therefore illegal.

Re: Ending this.

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:17 pm
by Balrogga
NO

NO

NO

Do not propose anything that will cripple us people that actually does Role Playing on NS.

Re: Ending this.

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:47 pm
by Kanuckistan
Well, seeing as it was an attack on Xenonier's base, staged or not, that started the war, he should demand some concession, and the rest of the proposed treaty can be structured around that.

Additionally, we could demand one-way free trade - no tax or tariffs and easy access to their markets.

Tho naturally, any ESUS member state attacking a member of the GFFA would forfeit that trade advantage with their whole alliance, even if hostilities didn't spread, but not if the ESUS nation is defending itself or acting in the defence of an ally.