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Re: What to do with a frakton of negative mass?

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:32 am
by Kanuckistan
Otagia wrote:On the subject of BEC laser-slugs, mind if I market a weapon using the tech? I'll give you credit, and 60% of the profits off any of the things using it I sell.
Sure. Licensed through Uniphase Armouries Interversal on behalf of a third party.


Just keep me apraised of what you do with it. Always like to see others playing with my toys.

Re: What to do with a frakton of negative mass?

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:31 pm
by Celestial Seibutsu
Kanuckistan wrote:in addition to the ability to cancel/nullify normal mass.
Ok so my physics understanding is no where near what it most likely should be, but that right there screams explosive to me.

Re: What to do with a frakton of negative mass?

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:35 pm
by Sskiss
I'm having problems grasping the concept of negative mass. I mean really, can one own -5 apples?

EDIT: Visual overload, giving me a headache!

Re: What to do with a frakton of negative mass?

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:06 pm
by Celestial Seibutsu
Please for the sake of god lose the background. I like my president too but please for the sake of my eyes get rid of it.

Re: What to do with a frakton of negative mass?

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:02 am
by Hyperspatial Travel
Y'see, now I just wish McCain had won. Mindset wouldn't have done this for him.

(though I'm somewhat surprised that the shirtless beach picture isn't gracing the ESUS site right now)

Re: What to do with a frakton of negative mass?

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:13 am
by Central Facehuggeria
Please don't spam general, SC.

Thank you.

Re: What to do with a frakton of negative mass?

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:17 am
by Solar Communes
Celestial Seibutsu wrote:Please for the sake of god lose the background. I like my president too but please for the sake of my eyes get rid of it.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865

Re: What to do with a frakton of negative mass?

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:51 am
by Kanuckistan
Celestial Seibutsu wrote:
Kanuckistan wrote:in addition to the ability to cancel/nullify normal mass.
Ok so my physics understanding is no where near what it most likely should be, but that right there screams explosive to me.
You're thinking matter/antimatter. Those are different forms of energy, they just don't get along.

Negative mass isn't antimatter, it's what you get when you take 0 apples, and split it into piles of 5 apples and -5 apples; combining the two gets you zip. Or you dig a hole to get some soil for your garden - the hole is, thermodynamically, akin to negative mass.

Sskiss wrote:I'm having problems grasping the concept of negative mass. I mean really, can one own -5 apples?

EDIT: Visual overload, giving me a headache!

Think of it as digging a hole in thermodynamics. Or in terms of debt - you 'borrow' 5 apples from the universe, so you get your apples, but also have a debt of -5 apples, and as with debt, you can move it around change it's form, etc., but can't get rid of it without paying it back in some form.

To reiterate, physics is weird.

Re: What to do with a frakton of negative mass?

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:07 am
by Celestial Seibutsu
Kanuckistan wrote:
Celestial Seibutsu wrote:
Kanuckistan wrote:in addition to the ability to cancel/nullify normal mass.
Ok so my physics understanding is no where near what it most likely should be, but that right there screams explosive to me.
You're thinking matter/antimatter. Those are different forms of energy, they just don't get along.

Negative mass isn't antimatter, it's what you get when you take 0 apples, and split it into piles of 5 apples and -5 apples; combining the two gets you zip. Or you dig a hole to get some soil for your garden - the hole is, thermodynamically, akin to negative mass.

Sskiss wrote:I'm having problems grasping the concept of negative mass. I mean really, can one own -5 apples?

EDIT: Visual overload, giving me a headache!

Think of it as digging a hole in thermodynamics. Or in terms of debt - you 'borrow' 5 apples from the universe, so you get your apples, but also have a debt of -5 apples, and as with debt, you can move it around change it's form, etc., but can't get rid of it without paying it back in some form.

To reiterate, physics is weird.
But if you can take negative mass and add it to positive mass which in turn destroys the positive mass, then why not make a weapon of some kind to disperse it on your enemies?

Re: What to do with a frakton of negative mass?

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:36 am
by Kanuckistan
Celestial Seibutsu wrote: But if you can take negative mass and add it to positive mass which in turn destroys the positive mass, then why not make a weapon of some kind to disperse it on your enemies?
Because it nullifies at a 1:1 ratio - one kilo eats a kilo of enemy armour, and that's it.

You might as well use antimatter instead, then you have one kilo of projectile eating one kilo of enemy hull and spitting out 45 megatons TNTe of energy, point-blank.

:(