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The Extra-Solar Union of Systems Archive • ESUS-USF Alliance?
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ESUS-USF Alliance?

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:08 am
by Underwater Asylum
As a member of the ESUS, and the Military Head of the USF, I am proposing that these two alliances ally with each other. This would mean the dropping of hostilities with TFU by ESUS members, and vice versa.

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:21 am
by Mekanta
I vote a BIG no.

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:45 am
by Underwater Asylum
Care to explain why?

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:49 am
by Mekanta
Where shall I begin...?

First... Against ESUS constitutional rights to deny soverignty to attack a non-ESUS nation. The nations of ESUS don't have to help, but they have to stay out of the goddamn way.

Second... Quite a few prominant ESUS nations don't like TFU, or GZ, or the USF in general. If this passes, chances are those nations will leave. You, UA, are expendable. Central Facehuggeria is not.

Need more reasons?

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:55 am
by Underwater Asylum
Well, this is awkward. Time for me to take on my double sided role.

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 5:14 am
by The Mindset
Peace can be maintained (for now) without a formal treaty. There's no point in unifying the entirity of the NS space nation community, lest we end up with nothing to do.

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 5:19 am
by Underwater Asylum
Problem for me is, they won't let me trade freely. But screw 'em. I'm their head of Military Operations. They better give me some leniency.

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 5:39 am
by Kanuckistan
Mekanta wrote:Where shall I begin...?

First... Against ESUS constitutional rights to deny soverignty to attack a non-ESUS nation. The nations of ESUS don't have to help, but they have to stay out of the goddamn way.
Any treaty would requior an 80% majority vote, the same as requiored to ammend the constitution. Hence, it shouldn't be an issue.
Mekanta wrote: Second... Quite a few prominant ESUS nations don't like TFU
This would be the big reason it wouldn't pass.
Underwater Asylum wrote:Problem for me is, they won't let me trade freely.
Why not?

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:01 am
by Underwater Asylum
Big deal about not letting things fall into enemy hands, and neutral parties can only have small arms from me... Which pisses me off. ((Strictly ooc: In any case, I sell export versions))

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:16 am
by Mekanta
Tell them to frell off and do it anyway.