ESUS-USF Alliance?

[Underwater Asylum]

As a member of the ESUS, and the Military Head of the USF, I am proposing that these two alliances ally with each other. This would mean the dropping of hostilities with TFU by ESUS members, and vice versa.

[Mekanta]

I vote a BIG no.

[Underwater Asylum]

Care to explain why?

[Mekanta]

Where shall I begin...?

First... Against ESUS constitutional rights to deny soverignty to attack a non-ESUS nation. The nations of ESUS don't have to help, but they have to stay out of the goddamn way.

Second... Quite a few prominant ESUS nations don't like TFU, or GZ, or the USF in general. If this passes, chances are those nations will leave. You, UA, are expendable. Central Facehuggeria is not.

Need more reasons?

[Underwater Asylum]

Well, this is awkward. Time for me to take on my double sided role.

[The Mindset]

Peace can be maintained (for now) without a formal treaty. There's no point in unifying the entirity of the NS space nation community, lest we end up with nothing to do.

[Underwater Asylum]

Problem for me is, they won't let me trade freely. But screw 'em. I'm their head of Military Operations. They better give me some leniency.

[Kanuckistan]

Where shall I begin...?

First... Against ESUS constitutional rights to deny soverignty to attack a non-ESUS nation. The nations of ESUS don't have to help, but they have to stay out of the goddamn way.

Any treaty would requior an 80% majority vote, the same as requiored to ammend the constitution. Hence, it shouldn't be an issue.

Second... Quite a few prominant ESUS nations don't like TFU

This would be the big reason it wouldn't pass.

Problem for me is, they won't let me trade freely.

Why not?

[Underwater Asylum]

Big deal about not letting things fall into enemy hands, and neutral parties can only have small arms from me... Which pisses me off. ((Strictly ooc: In any case, I sell export versions))

[Mekanta]

Tell them to frell off and do it anyway.